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Mojca · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 13:50 Temat postu: Team Slovenija

So as i promised Emu here i am with Primož Ulaga & Slovene woman team:

So as you all probably know Primož Ulaga, very successful ex-skijumper is now director of Nordic disciplines at Ski Association of Slovenia and with his coming to that possition much has changed in all the Nordic team and luckily to better. Also on the field of Women ski jumping.
So what has he done:
- we have a women team, which now contains out of 7 ski jumpers
- this team has their own coach (Sten Baloh) and the assistent coach (Aljoša Zelnik)
- the team is part of a Ski pool, which means they also get all official clothing (which wasn't the case e.g. 2 years ago)
- the team members get ski jumping equipment (skiis, suits, shoes, etc.) from Nordic teams budget
- the team has its own yearly budget
- the budget is increasing every year, which means that girls can have more trainings and they can attend more competitions
- Primož also took care that Monika and Maja got their personal sponsors
- Primož was the main sponsor of this summer's USA trip, so Maja & Monika could attend the first COC competitions in history
- etc. etc.

So you see he has done a lot, but there are still many things that can and have to be done, so hopefully we will have him as a director for a long time, so everything will be able to be done. uśmiech

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Emu · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 14:25 Temat postu:

And that's the way women's ski jumping should be treated! :happy: I hate situations when something exclusively male is being presented as gender neutral; discrimination is no neutrality! wrrr

Women's ski jumping is a part of Nordic skiing and should be recognized as that.

I'm happy Monika has won in Meinerzhagen; I felt quite sorry for her after the second LCOC competition in Park City, where she also could have won, but then she fell in her second jump... smutny

The forefront is really getting much bigger and more "dense". And it seems that Slovenia is one of the countries where jumping girls really get what they deserve. bardzo zadowolony

Poland's just the contrary... bardzo smutny

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Mojca · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 14:35 Temat postu:

Yeah Monika really deserved that victory in Meinerzhagen, cause she was so close to it whole summer, but somehow it never worked out for her. She's really one of the view that put her everything in sport, but not only her, her whole family and also her trainer. However she's going through some problems with her club now, cause want to go from SSK Mislinja to SSK Ljubno (where her trainer is working) and Mislinja and Ski Association doesn't allow it. We'll see how this problem will be solved... zamyślony

Women ski jumping is getting more and more popular in Slovenia, right now there more than 30 girls in Slovenia and this number is increasing...must of all i'm happy that majority of this girls are younger than 15 years old, so we have a great future i think, esp. with ski jumpers like Katja Požun, Manja Pograjc, Barbara Klinec, etc. uśmiech

Emu · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 17:23 Temat postu:

I think the athlete should decide her/himself... Even Ronny Ackermann has recently gone over to the club where he has begun his career and only later was forced to go to Oberhof because of the situation, which couldn't let him develop his skills. Now he's returned, maybe just out of sentiment.
OK, but how will Monika manage to put everything in order? So far I know she lives in Mislinja, so now she would have to travel to train in the club...

Katja, Manja and so on are great jumpers, but in girls' competitions. In my opinion it's really an exaggeration if a 10-year-old girl starts in a big women's competition!
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With half the mind you laugh at me
'Cause I speak of colors you've never seen before
(Misunderstood)
That's how I feel about ski jumping

Mojca · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 17:31 Temat postu:

Yeah it's true that Monika lives in Mislinja, but Ljubno is also only 30 min from Mislinja, so the distance wouldn't be so big. The reason why she decided to do this is because of disagreements in the club, where everything is lead by just one man, who doesn't listed to anyone else and that's Mr. Robnik. That's why the climate in the club and everything else is very bad. If you remember also Dejan Plevnik changed from Mislinja to SK Triglav, Anže Obreza from Mislinja to SSK Velenje and both for the same reason. It's just not nice to work in a club where nothing is like it should be.

Katja and Manja were taken to Ladies Grand Prix as a reward of their club for their good presentations in this summer on Slovene cup competition, where they are on first two places in concurence of BOYS till 12 years. That's why their journey and accommodation had to be payed by SK Zagorje Ytong. But nevertheless they are also richer for quite some experiences that will for sure come handy in the future.

Emu · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 19:34 Temat postu:

Wow... these girls really ROCK. zachwycony

There are some little jumping girls which i try to observe over the years... Vladka bardzo zadowolony

, Katie Willis, Jaci Seifriedsberger... Also little combiners from Baiersbronn: Magdalena und Johanna Schnurr und Svenja Wuerth; they often beat the boys both in jumping and NC... bardzo zadowolony

But usually such little girls aren't yet ready to compete with older girls and women. Katie and Jacqueline (somewhat older, currently 13) are exceptions, but even Vladka not yet...
Anyway already the Kisovec competitions have shown that Slovenia has a lot of female jumping nachwuchs. uśmiech

Year after year there will be more in all countries active in this beautiful sport; I hope that even in Poland soon some girls' desire to become ski jumpers won't remain something that could be ignored...
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With half the mind you laugh at me
'Cause I speak of colors you've never seen before
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That's how I feel about ski jumping

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Mojca · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 19:46 Temat postu:

Jacqueline is only 13? I didn't know that...Well, according to our coach she and some girls from Zahomc (Achomitz) are the only young ones in Austria. He said they have much problems with young girls, cause in other clubs (except Achomitz) they didn't work sistematicly with them. But we will see how will be in the future, when Daniela and Eva end their careers.

It's great that also in other countries e.g. Italy, France, etc. have founded teams and girls are comming to competitions...

Emu · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 23:12 Temat postu:

So "offtopically": this is exactly what I fear; Austria has two absolutely great women jumpers, some really good... and totally little nachwuchs! I have already noticed it. From this point of view there's something interesting about the two youngest athletes in the summer tour: Slovenia takes a little jumping girl to show how much female nachwuchs the country has - Austria also does (Verena Pock, 11), because so far it's almost the only nachwuchs girl with some success (Jaci is no nachwuchs anymore, it's the national team bardzo zadowolony

)...

But it seems there are some jumping girls in the region of Saalfelden, where an LCOC competition takes place. uśmiech

But it isn't so easy to find anything, because as in many Austrian clubs, for the club president and so on only the alpine section is the interesting one... robi oczy

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I speak of love but you do not see
'Cause words are words and they mean nothing more
With half the mind you laugh at me
'Cause I speak of colors you've never seen before
(Misunderstood)
That's how I feel about ski jumping

Mojca · Wysłany: 29.8.2004, 23:55 Temat postu:

What can i say except thank gawd in Slovenia we have Borut Markošek (SK Zagorje Ytong), Aljoša Zelnik (SK Triglav), Zoran Zupančič (SSK Alpina, better known as Jaka Oblak's trainer) and of course last but not least good old Sten Baloh (SSK Stol) who were brave enough to start with women ski jumping in Slovenia and are continuing with it, even though among many people they are still called like "Little-o-woman-Sten" and similar stupid names (coming from adults who are even working in ski jumping).

BTW you mentioned Kisovec before, Borut told me that they will candidate for COC competition next summer, cause Ladies summer tour will be also part of it most probably. uśmiech

And for winter 2004/05 it's still opened that 2 COC competitions will take part in Kranj, at the same time as Nordic combined B competitions (15. and 16.01.2005). uśmiech

Emu · Wysłany: 30.8.2004, 07:53 Temat postu:

Mojca · Wysłany: 30.8.2004, 09:36 Temat postu:

I don't know if they'll receive the right but they sure are going to try. No matter how the thing will be decided the Ladies summer jumping in Kisovec will become a tradition, even if some women-jumpers are (like it happened this year) and will going to be to proud to jump on K50 hill.

Yeah there are talks between Miran Tepeš mostly as a representative of FIS and SK Triglav to poll this through, but we'll see, hopefully they will find some agreement, the problem is - as you can imagine THE MONEY.

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Emu · Wysłany: 30.8.2004, 20:39 Temat postu:

I guess money is also the biggest problem for me when it comes to such big journeys... smutny

I don't like going to competitions with my mum, I don't even like skoczniołazostwo with my mum, because she allows me to sit on the start bar only on totally small hills... I have already sat on the start bar of a K-90, but luckily she's never seen it. zachwycony

By the way, as for the mass of jumpers who are capable of competing on a K-50... It would be great if the Team Magyar came to Kisovec to another big competition; Borbala has already jumped from a K-65, I hope her twin sister Dorottya would also come...

How it is in Slovenia with the opinion of the officials and the publicity? Do they believe in women's jumping and is it known that women also do practise this sport? (Myself, I'm asked all the time: "So women jump too??? :wow:" wrrr

)
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I speak of love but you do not see
'Cause words are words and they mean nothing more
With half the mind you laugh at me
'Cause I speak of colors you've never seen before
(Misunderstood)
That's how I feel about ski jumping

Mojca · Wysłany: 30.8.2004, 21:20 Temat postu:

Well the officials in most of the clubs in Slovenia are for women ski jumping, sure there are some exceptions, but luckily they are very rare. Till recently SSK Ilirija was such example, but now they also have one girl jumping (Špela Rogelj), she's quite talented.

Publicity...that's a hard question, because usually i'm in contact with people from ski jumping and of course they know women are jumping and as Slovenia is such a small country and ski jumping is a popular sport, i think also people who are slightly interested in sports know it.
But it's sad that no media except SloNordic of course is reporting about Women ski jumping, so our site is the only resource for people, who would like to know something about women ski jumping and luckily with the help of trainers and Monika we are always top actual and very informative for our visitors also when it comes to women ski jumping.

Emu · Wysłany: 9.9.2004, 20:12 Temat postu:

Mojca, I have a little question... One can say you are yourself promoting the Slovene Nordic teams, you also know a lot about what do the officials do in problems like women's ski jumping. Could yopu perhaps help me with a piece of advice? Just: what to do to promote women's jumping... I have few possibilities myself, but if I talked to the trainers and officials again, it would be useful to have a complete, realistic acting strategy. Maybe they would agree to start a "promo action"...
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I speak of love but you do not see
'Cause words are words and they mean nothing more
With half the mind you laugh at me
'Cause I speak of colors you've never seen before
(Misunderstood)
That's how I feel about ski jumping

Mojca · Wysłany: 14.9.2004, 17:01 Temat postu:

Well, first thing it would be that you somehow convince the officials that you are confident and your aims are serious...you know how it is with girls in ski jumping sport. Almost all the officials think the girls are in this sport only because of the guys (big thanks to kreischies for that zły

) and you must fight your way through...
When you do that the doors will be opened...new people, new contacts, many of them having to do with women ski jumping directly...or indirectly...then you present your views, ideas, etc to them and i'm sure they are going to take them under consideration if the are well enough presented and most of all realistic!
But i guess the most important thing here are really contacts who take you seriously as a girl who's in this world with all of her hearth but by sports.
I dunno...i haven't answered your question, but i know from my own experience that just ideas are never enough...the trust is the most important.

Emu · Wysłany: 14.9.2004, 17:10 Temat postu:

Now it isn't THATimportant because something is REALLY starting to be done... of course I'm involved... bardzo zadowolony

Shhh, a bit later; let's wait until the new version of the club's site (the first Polish ski club with an own homepage?) is finished... uśmiech

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I speak of love but you do not see
'Cause words are words and they mean nothing more
With half the mind you laugh at me
'Cause I speak of colors you've never seen before
(Misunderstood)
That's how I feel about ski jumping